The theoretical physicist who was approached by the CIA to understand how UFOs operate
| Name | Jack Sarfatti |
| Age | 86 |
| Born | September 14, 1939 |
| Famous for | Allegedly fully discovering how UFOs are built and how they’re operated |
For decades, the nature of UFOs has plagued the brightest minds. But why has nobody found an accurate answer or explanation for how they operate? Are UFOs truly complex objects that the human mind can’t comprehend? Or are we missing something right under our noses?
Occam’s razor is the principle that suggests when searching for explanations, the simplest is likely the answer. Regarding UFOs, theoretical physicist Jack Sarfatti seems to agree, claiming that the physics behind them is actually rather elementary.
Who Is Jack Sarfatti?
Born in Brooklyn, New York to Millie and Hyman Sarfatti, Jack Sarfatti wasn’t like the other kids. He was very wise for his age. He stuck to his books, reading about science, time travel, rockets, and the like.
Since entering academia, Sarfatti has been immediately drawn to physics. After graduating from Midwood High School in 1956, he furthered his mastery of the science by attending:
- Cornell University, obtaining his Bachelor’s in Physics in 1960
- La Jolla University, obtaining his MS in 1967
- University of California, Riverside, obtaining his Ph.D in 1969
Sarfatti was undoubtedly an outstanding student with a bright future. He studied under Nobel Prize-winning physicists and worked on the following papers, reflecting his extensive interest and understanding of the subject:
- Quantum-Mechanical Correlation Theory of Electromagnetic Fields, published in 1963
- Beyond the Hartree-Fock Theory in Superfluid Helium, published in 1970, which he co-wrote with his professor, Fred Cummings
The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) recognized his genius and sponsored his attendance in a course on nonlinear physics at the Max Planck Institute. He juggled this with theoretical physics at Harwell Laboratory, now the Atomic Energy Research Establishment.
His Career Before Entering the UFO Space
By the 1970s, he became part of an informal group of physicists known as the Fundamental Fysiks Group. They helped nurture some alternative ideas in quantum physics, which formed the basis of today’s quantum information science.
Outside this group, he worked in the following professions:
- As an assistant physics professor at San Diego State University from 1967 to 1971
- As a research fellow at Birkbeck College from 1971 to 1972
With his dedication, Jack Sarfatti may as well have become synonymous with physics. He has established himself as a boundary-pushing physicist and is most known for his works on quantum mechanics, retrocausal interpretations, consciousness, and the UFO phenomenon.
During his last years in academia, he conducted research into black holes at the International Centre for Theoretical Physics from 1973 to 1974.
How Did He Become Involved With Studying UFO/UAPs?
Today, Sarfatti’s reputation is associated with the UFO phenomenon. He has become one of those scientists who maximize their expertise to help unravel its mysteries. What sets him apart, however, is his long-standing personal connection with this phenomenon.
His First Exposure to UFOs
When his parents divorced, Jack Sarfatti lived with his grandparents. His grandfather worked with the U.S. Army, driving officers around whenever they had to pick up materials. This gave him access to the army’s offices and laboratories, and the opportunity to ride along with officers, which ultimately exposed him to discussions about flying saucers.
Sarfatti claimed that one of the discussions he’s heard from them concerned the Roswell incident. While he seemed unsure whether it was a genuine memory or something he could’ve “manufactured,” he recalled recognizing the craft when photographs of it were published in Day After Roswell.
One of the incident’s key figures, Philip Corso, who claimed to have witnessed the crashed saucer and dead aliens, was also someone he talked to as a kid.
His Personal Encounter
With his background, Jack Sarfatti had already been intrigued about flying saucers growing up, but this would be amplified after his first personal encounter at the age of 13.
He had just moved back in with his mother in Brooklyn and was alone one August night when the phone rang. Sarfatti picked it up and, at first, all he could hear were numbers, as if someone were giving him coordinates.
In the background, he heard a whirring, clunking sound before a mechanical voice spoke up. It identified itself as “a computer on board a spacecraft back from the future,” and told him they were contacting around 400 young receptive minds to teach their technology to.
Jack Sarfatti initially thought it was a prank, but realized none of his friends had the technology to alter their voices during a call. The voice asked if he was interested in joining. However, when he thought of declining, he claimed he felt an electric shock from the base of his spine up the back of his head, before hearing himself say “yes”
The voice then told him he would meet others in the project in 20 years, and instructed him to:
- Go out the fire escape
- Wait for 10 minutes while they’ll send a ship over
He did as asked and went out, where he met his friends and told them a flying saucer was going to get him. Unfortunately, nothing showed up. However, this wouldn’t close the door on his association with the phenomenon, because in the 70s, the CIA personally contacted him.
What Was Jack Sarfatti’s Mission From the CIA?
While the CIA only formally approached Sarfatti in the 70s, their connection actually dated back much further. When he was in high school, he remembered meeting Walter Breen, an Air Force soldier in 1947, around the same time as the Roswell incident.
It turned out that Breen was recruiting young minds to join a program for gifted children. It was an informal gathering where men in black suits would come up to lecture them about the Soviet threat, physics, and flying saucers. This was the start of Jack Sarfatti’s connection with the CIA.
According to him, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) was formed in response to the Roswell Crash. He heard it directly from James Jesus Angleton’s grandson that Angleton apparently got scared of the flying saucers, which prompted the agency’s establishment.
It was established so the government would understand two things:
- How consciousness works
- How flying saucers operate
These were also the reasons why the CIA pulled him out of academia—the subjects they gave him to look into.
The CIA Recording About UFOs
Jack Sarfatti understands that many would immediately question the credibility of his claims. Fortunately, he has one compelling piece of evidence up his sleeve.
In 1973, he was allegedly invited to a meeting with ufologist Jacques Vallee (who didn’t show up), the CIA, and other researchers. He managed to record a portion of the meeting in which they discussed remote viewing, telepathy, clairvoyance, and UFOs.
ℹ️ The information we’ll be sharing is a transcription of the conversation. Due to the nature of the recording, we can’t specify which individuals are sharing what information, nor do we have the means to identify them. We’ll only give a general overview of what was said. If you’re interested in the whole meeting, you can access it here.
They also talked about:
- James Hurtak’s Extra-Galactic Travel. They talked about Hurtak, who claimed to be engaging in such travels and bringing back messages to people. Someone shared that he met people who spent a night with Hurtak and saw enormous things in the sky.
- People with Similar Experiences as Sarfatti. They also talked about Sarfatti’s phone call. Someone shared that they have data on others who have shared a similar experience. Sarfatti also shared that he often gets a subjective feeling that the information he gets about UFOs is being put into his mind.
What Did He Learn About UFO/UAPs?
Nobody understands it (UFO) in the military, but they could understand it if they listened to me and the others.
In pursuit of his mission, Jack Sarfatti has discovered the following about UFOs.
Element 115 Isn’t Necessary
One of the discoveries about UFOs was popularized by ufologist Bob Lazar. He claimed he possessed a necessary fuel source for spacecraft called “Element 115.”
This is a unique and super-dense material that produces its own anti-gravitational field when exposed to radiation. Lazar suggested that this is what lifts and propels UFOs. However, Jack Sarfatti disagreed by saying that Element 115 isn’t necessary.
The physicist even called Bob Lazar a “useful idiot of the military industrial complex.” He claimed that the latter isn’t a physicist and has never explained how the element works and affects space because it simply can’t be done.
Sarfatti believes that Lazar only relays or reads off a script that somebody gave him, without truly knowing what he’s talking about.
Meta-Material Is in the Fuselage
A common belief about UFOs is that they’re a complex craft with equally complex mechanics, given the marvel in their flight. However, Sarfatti disagrees with this notion and claims that the Tic Tac (or UFOs in general) doesn’t require much.
In fact, everything about it is easy to explain. It’s just that the material it’s built with is what’s holding humanity back from recreating it.
UFOs can maneuver the way they do because of a special material in their fuselage, which Sarfatti calls the “meta-material.” This is key to creating the warp fields needed for the UFO’s propulsion and is designed to alter gravity, light, and spacetime.
People have already manufactured these materials for sensors and perfect lenses. However, the problem is that they’re making these at a gross level with big wavelengths.
UFOs use meta-materials down “not only to the billionth of a meter scale but maybe down to the angstrom of an atomic scale.”
This means humanity has yet to discover how to reduce its mass, but once it does, Jack Sarfatti believes it will be easy to build and fly UFOs.
Navy’s UFO Patent Isn’t Going to Work
One of the most monumental moments in UFO history was when Dr. Salvatore Pais engineered a propulsion system allegedly resembling UFO technology. Jack Sarfatti shuts these down by claiming that they won’t work.
The patent won’t work. First, there’s no physics in it. It’s only electrodynamics. He may have some kind of propulsion system, but it’s not a warp drive.
When Dr. Pais claimed that his patent’s electromagnetic force is positioned right where it’s able to manipulate other energy, Sarfatti disagreed with him, saying no other force plays a role in UFOs. The only thing physicists should worry about is the electromagnetic force and its interaction with the gravitational field.
UFOs Can Be Powered by People’s Brains
Contrary to what most scientists believe, UFOs don’t need much power. If they did, they would’ve burned the planet already.
According to Sarfatti, these crafts can be powered by the brain’s electrical activity. In fact, Philip Corso has already claimed to have witnessed the little green men controlling their spacecraft with their brainwaves.
Another way to power and control these crafts is through a supercomputer. Sarfatti claimed that metamaterials are made up of nodes called quantum dots, each controlled by an electromagnetic field. To power these, a conscious artificial intelligence needs to be embedded in the fuselage to rapidly compute the energy required.
UFOs Move Through the Alcubierre Warp Drive
Jack Sarfatti used Einstein’s theory of gravity to explain how UFOs move through space. According to him, their propulsion bends spacetime in a controlled way, creating a warp drive.
From the craft’s nose, UFOs create a tractive gravity field that contracts the space around them, pulling the ship. From behind, a negative repulsive gravity also expands space, pushing it. This is called the Alcubierre Warp Drive.
The ship itself isn’t moving in its gravitational field. Instead, it’s folding space.
UFOs Aren’t Extraterrestrial But a Product of Time Loop
This is where Jack Sarfatti’s theory becomes trippy. He firmly believes that UFOs and “UFO people” exist. However, they aren’t extraterrestrials—they’re just men from the future.
He ties this theory to his research about black holes and general relativity. As he explained, general relativity implies a fundamental violation of causality. In principle, a ship can orbit a spinning black hole and emerge in its past, a phenomenon called the “time machine effect.”
Sarfatti also used this to explain how Bob Lazar got information about UFOs. According to him, a time traveler could have given Lazar some information, but not the whole truth, to influence the progress of research on this phenomenon.
Jack Sarfatti’s Legacy in Modern Ufology
Jack Sarfatti holds a controversial position in modern ufology. To this day, he’s still pursuing a true understanding of how UFOs operate and the possible recreation of one.
Unlike other figures in the community, his influence doesn’t stem from investigating UFO cases, but from his persistence in combining theoretical physics, consciousness studies, and the UFO phenomenon into something that can be clearly understood.
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FAQ
What is Jack Sarfatti’s connection to UFO research?
Jack Sarfatti formed a connection between UFO studies and theoretical physics. Instead of investigating cases, he focused on providing scientific frameworks for how UFOs operate.
What are Jack Sarfatti’s main theories?
Jack Sarfatti believes that UFOs are manifestations of spacetime engineering, involving warp drive physics, gravity control, and possible retrocausality. He also proposes that consciousness and future human intelligence can play a role in how UFOs operate.
Does Sarfatti believe UFOs are extraterrestrial?
He doesn’t limit UFOs to extraterrestrial origins. Sarfatti has proposed multiple possibilities, including future humans or entities operating outside the conventional space and time.
References
- “Jack Sarfatti.” Cornell University, https://cornell.academia.edu/JackSarfatti/CurriculumVitae. Accessed January 29, 2026.
- “CIA Funded Physicist Exposes Mind-Driven UFOs, Warp Drive & Time Travel | Jack Sarfatti.” YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70Vrvg4dUHQ. Accessed January 29, 2026.
- “‘1973’ CIA recording Sarfatti, Puthoff, Targ, O Regan SRI UFO from Future.” SoundCloud, https://soundcloud.com/jack-sarfatti/cia-recording-sarfatti-puthoff-targ-o-regan-sri-ufo-from-future. Accessed January 30, 2026.
- “‘It can be weaponized’: Jeremy Corbell and Bob Lazar claim element 115 is dangerous.” Dailymotion, https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x79tvtb. Accessed January 30, 2026.
- “Dr. Jack Sarfatti: I Know How Tic Tacs Work, the US Does Not.” YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHGYprFP9qQ. Accessed January 30, 2026.
- “Jack Sarfatti’s Star Fleet Academy Comes to Life.” Medium, https://medium.com/predict/jack-sarfattis-star-fleet-academy-comes-to-life-247f6d294a71. Accessed January 30, 2026.